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I'm so tired of the Coach Crane topic, I thought was time for a new one. I do appreciate the addition of the positive comments about softball (all very well deserved..Holly does a kick *** job, and this should be one heck of a year for her team!) but, because the topic lacks any controversy, it has been swallowed once again by the women's basketball postings.
Westerwind Sports Forum posters, here's some new rawhide to chew:
As a long time Leatherneck Nation reader, I wonder why no one has made an issue about volleyball. 88 wins in 8 seasons. By anyone's standards, that math is easy. Coach McKay "is the second winningest coach in WIU history" - but they don't really highlight that she trails a coach who garnered 112 victories in only 7 seasons. Where's the furor?
"Twittergate" gets mentioned periodically, yet no one has ever really made an issue about the fact that she (accidently) posted on her Twitter account that her team "smokes ***" - which, by the way, directly broke a team rule about posting negative comments in public forums. Her punishment? Nada - and her team was furious enough about it to tell the local newspapers and Goldfarb about it. But don't worry your pretty little heads about it. It was covered up. I'm sure there won't be any long lasting damage from "Twittergate" - I mean, she only had future recruits, players, fans, club coaches, and parents as followers. That's sarcasm, just in case you couldn't tell.
Oh, in case you missed it, at the final match of the season, a student in the stands wore a T-shirt that said, "My blood alcohol content is higher than Coach McKay's winning percentage." College humor is funny is because it's true.
Once again, Leatherneck Nation posters, where is your furor?
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I rest my case.
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Nobody cares about vb because they are invisible and have been for years. You have a coach that is the single most unsocial person I've ever seen in coaching. Does she even live in Macomb? She is rarely at events, never see her at fund raising or anything. I don't count her video at the auction, maybe they should have her twitter in her request for support You are correct about the need for people to pay attention to the lack of performance and excellence in this program. It is one of three marque sports for women and they (the athletic department) once again are not held accountable for their employees or for the administrative lack of action. There should be outrage, running commentary and indignation. Oh, that would require people to care. Perhaps the athletes and the parents should start the ground swell. The common denominator in all this is POOR, CRAPPY ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERSHIP. FIRE TVA, GJ, AND THE COACH. SOUND FAMILIAR?
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It all goes back to leadership.
Certainly A.D. Van Alstine and V.P. Johnson should be dismissed.
I am hoping that President Goldfarb does that before he retires. Otherwise, the new President will be stuck with a big mess.
When the Coach Patterson vs Van Alstine lawsuit goes to court, the truth will finally come out.
Let's Go WESTERN!!
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Maybe no one is replying to this topic because most of us "fans" are tired of all the bitterly negative posts on LNation. Maybe volleyball isn't achieving to the level that they should, but how many sports at Western are? Has volleyball done worse than men's basketball, baseball, women's tennis, women's golf, men's and women's swimming and diving, football, or any other programs that haven't won conference titles in the recent past?
And before you jump all over that and start bashing the administration further, just think how nice it has been on the men's basketball topics recently. Nothing but positive comments. It's been fun to read.
Look, when something truly negative happens (the lawsuit, dropping swimming/diving, etc.), feel free to go to town. But just because you are bored with bashing the same people over and over (and yes, we are tired of you doing it, too), don't just go looking for a new dog to kick.
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Apparently we aren't tired of commenting on the abuse of the WBB coaching staff, the ineptitude and downright negligence of the A.D., the Vice-President and the faculty representative or the other poorly performing teams. I would say that some of the same people who you feel are harsh on Crane have been supportive of Coach Patterson because you can lose with class, graduate your players, have ethics and scrupples, recruit in more than one state and still be considered successful or at least a class act without prostituting yourself or being embarrassing the university and the community.
Your point is not helped by bringing up the losing records and lack of success of the other teams. If anything, it validates the complaints of a cadre of posters on this list, being the incompetence of the administration, the shameful negligence of the university towards its student athletes, and the need for sweeping changes from the TOP down in student services/athletics. Kudos to Coach Mo and his team. He is doing what he was hired to do in a seemingly professional manner. He isn't embarrassing the university (have any of us met his parents yet or maybe any siblings he might have in coaching?), his players appear to get better under the tutelage of his program, and his players appear happy and to have fun. What a novel concept.
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Is this the most PC board around? Where is it written that LN has to be all positive boards?
How is this for being positive.
I'm positive it is time for Coach Crane to resign.
I'm positive the WBB program is going nowhere under Coach Crane.
I'm positive LN has a bunch a liberal, crybabies.
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Freshman
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Really? Liberal? My guess is that most of the people on LN are registered conservatives. Conservatives seem to gripe more behind anonymous avatars and big personalities like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. 
No crying here, just observations about programs over which we have no control.
To be honest, in today's economic and social times, I wouldn't want a career in higher education. In the same breath, I also wouldn't want my career to depend on the emotional and physical well-being of teenagers and other young adults. After all, they're crazy. 
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RockyBobbleHead,
I guess you have nothing to do with education then since you don't want your career to depend on student success, whether that be personally, socially, or academically.
Caring about students is, or at least should be, a primary value for anyone involved in the teaching/coaching profession at the grade school through college level.
Add to the fact that Western's 4 core values are Academic Excellence, Educational Opportunity, Social Responsibility, and Personal Growth.
And not, I'm not particularly conservative. Nor to I feel the need to be PC. But I due stand behind the need to be respectful of others.
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Freshman
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As much as I would like to reply with some kind of snappy retort that will continue this inane discussion, I think I'll just say that life is too short to take yourself so seriously. I know I don't. 
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