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What happened to the good ol' days of real *** kicking D-I transfers? Is just not happening as much? Is Coach P leary of bringing in questionable off-the-field guys? This is the same university that brought in Aaron Stecker, Will Peterson, and Edgerton Hartwell. Peterson would disappoint in the end (rumors circulating it wasn't just an injury...no need to get further into that). Plus with other WIU black marks in the past few years off the field, i wonder if COach P has taken more of a no nonsense, we aren't here to give you a second chance approach? Am I way off base here? Or have we just not hit the jackpot on the DI transfers we've gotten since RJ Luke left? Very curious to see the replies on this one.
"I like that song, Mr. Sacrifice" - Coach Patterson
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i'm with you in not really knowing what the strategy is for recruiting. its does seem to me like they are getting more and more high school kids year in and year out for the past 4 years. could it be that coach p is really settling in in macomb after rumors that he might make a move up to bigger job??? i don't know, i just think he's a great guy for the job and can have it for a long time to come by challenging for the GFC and playoff berths. only spec and MO on that stuff, heck....but it seems like a few years ago, the bigtime impact guys from d1s stopped.....could be because we had travis glasford in the backfield and didn't need someone....but who knows. my feeling is that d1 transfers are always going to be looked at and if it fills a need and you think they aren't going to be a distraction or have issues, then get them in camp....
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I discussed this very topic with Coach P two or three years ago. He made it very plain that his emphasis would be to build the program with high school players but especially with his connections and friendships in the Big Ten he would never turn down an opportunity to look at a D1 transfer. He also stated the player must have high character and no "baggage". Ball tried the same thing he did at WIU at SWMO and ended up getting fired.
As with all Neck fans I am not pleased with the results of the past two seasons but believe me NO ONE is more displeased than Coach P and Coach Hendrickson. Also as everyone knows the Gateway is the toughest DIAA conference in the country.
After Wisconsin I hope the Leathernecks can contend for the Gateway this year.
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| Ok guys this is my first post. The problem with getting in D1A players is WIU's record the last 2 seasons. The coaches reached out last year and grabed 2 key players that will be instumental in the next couple of years. Linebacker J. Bennet and QB W. Ducey. Bennet was not a starter at the 1st part of the season but ended up with 31 solo tackes and 52 overall. 5th on the team. Ducey with the limited play time averaged 4.8yrds per carry(tied with Glasford) 20yrds per pass and 166 passsing efficiency all while learning the offense. Another note of interest is both these players accomplished this playing with major shoulder injuries. Wins draw attention to football programs.
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Football Dad (6/12/2006)
Ok guys this is my first post. The problem with getting in D1A players is WIU's record the last 2 seasons. The coaches reached out last year and grabed 2 key players that will be instumental in the next couple of years. Linebacker J. Bennet and QB W. Ducey. Bennet was not a starter at the 1st part of the season but ended up with 31 solo tackes and 52 overall. 5th on the team. Ducey with the limited play time averaged 4.8yrds per carry(tied with Glasford) 20yrds per pass and 166 passsing efficiency all while learning the offense. Another note of interest is both these players accomplished this playing with major shoulder injuries. Wins draw attention to football programs.
solid post....you don't see too many top D1A tranfers going to the Indiana States of the world...but you should see them taking a look at Western and other Gateway schools....a great first post...keep them coming!
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I have never been a big supporter of the quick fix! As a high school basketball coach, I constantly had kids transfer in but not really fit into what we were doing. A D1 with two or three (prefered) years of el is the only way to go. Anyone else just ends up being Hessian like! Some kids just go one step higher than they really can play, realize it, and then look to transfer. I think Ducey is an example of a kid who can really develop but was not quite ready to play especially with his leg injury. Transfers who have caused trouble or been in trouble are nothing but trouble. Just ask Randy Ball who each year brought in 30+ new players. Thats not a program! Seems like programs that did not take D1 kids are now doing it regularly. Delaware won the championship with a transfer from Michigan. But Don P said he was going to work at recruiting good freshman. A year of redshirt results in some kids who will play for four! We are about to witness the up swing that will be the result of 3 years of good recruiting, and two classes of redshirts. I was at the Spring game and the defense was flying around, the offense was very productive, and as far as I am concerned, the Necks are ready to again do some damage. 
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Hello to everyone. Glad someone finally came up with a spot where we can chat about all things Neck.
I had heard some rumors about a Joliet Catholic kid who may be transferring to WIU from Penn State. Has graduated from there but has a year of eligibility left. Anyone heard anything?
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OK, I've got a couple things that may not be popular on this subject.
1. When WIU was at its best, we relied on our D1 Transfer stars. We had a solid base, but it was those transfers that made most of the big plays. They still do matter and I believe you have tohave good transfers to have a successful program in this type of division of football. Look at SIU. They've had an influx of D1 transfers over the past 4-5 years now and they are by far a better program than they were since 1983 (think thats when they won it all). Let's not turn our back at the importance of D1 transfers.
2. I have a hard problem believing our record killed our chances of gettin really good DI recruits. Again, I point to Sthern. They had crap records before they brought in studs from down south. At least WIU could point to recent history of players in the NFL.
I'm happy the high school recruiting has been better, but I just wonder if with recent history Coach P feels some of them might be more trouble than their worth (Icould use names, but I won't). I know Coach P and I know he works ahrder than no one I've ever met in my entire life. The guy is a freak. I also know how serious he takes bringing in good young men. Western has had some incidents in the past few years with players doing some dumb stuff off campus and of course, the fight with WKU was a black eye as well even though it was more of a result of the game and WKU's players than the character of his Laetherneck players. I just wonder if he really has to be sold on a DI transfer before they com to WIU now. Just a thought.
"I like that song, Mr. Sacrifice" - Coach Patterson
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