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End of the line in Sioux Falls

RockyBobbleHead — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:15:40 GMT

The WIU Leatherneck Women were defeated by SDSU this afternoon, 39-67. We trailed by 11 at half-time, but SDSU came out hot as fire from 3 pointville.
Hard fought game in front of a LOT of blue and yellow!

I'm not sure who's playing it, but I can hear the WIU fight song for the women as they leave the court.
Safe travels back to Macomb, Leathernecks. You did us proud.

Keep Coach Crane!!!!!

former player — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:30:50 GMT

Ok...... so I got tired of posting messages on the other thread!!! Too much negativity and the same 3 or 4 people talking in circles. I am tired of people talking like they know what it is like to play for her. Tired of people thinking they have a valid opinion.... of which is based on zero experience.

I want the program to succeed!!! Plain and simple. The woman who made WIU WBB successful was not Regina Miller...... took the team to an NCAA appearance. But what did that get us? I took more pride in playing for a successful program every night we competed than making an "appearance" in the tournament. Coach Crane made WIU WBB a program to be proud of.

I am asking people to stand up for someone who has given 110% to Western Illinois University. Show support for the program!!! Don't you think she knows that something has to change?? Do you think she likes the way things are right now?? What people don't realize is that it takes time to fix a program...... I mean look at the men's side!!!

Words like "bullying" and "traumatizing" have no place on this message thread!!!

Let me take you back to a good old fashioned piece of advice..... "If you can't say something nice......don't say anything at all!"

Coach Crane, if you are reading this...... I want you to know that there are a lot of people out there who owe a lot to you. Former players, colleagues, and friends of yours do respect you and support you. I have known you now for more than a decade and I consider myself privileged to have been a part of Westerwind (back then) basketball. Playing for you had its tough moments but without those I wouldn't be who I am and as strong I am today. You taught us more than basketball....... you taught us about life and how to be a courageous woman. I can't thank you enough!!!

Go Leathernecks!!!!

HUGE victory for the women at Sioux Falls! 68-57 in the tournament!

RockyBobbleHead — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:25:02 GMT

What a fantastic effort by all of the ladies on the WIU Basketball team today! Any win over Oakland is a good one, but one in the tournament is especially sweet. AB and JO played their hearts out, and Ashley Lord hit the biggest jump shot of her life!
Way to go, women. Feel free to postpone your return trip to Macomb as long as you need to!

Time for Crane to Go

Fan56 — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:35:23 GMT

I have to agree with the posts indicating it's time for Coach Crane to go - and yes, that means both Dad and daughter.

Having Dad Crane seem like the one in charge is ridiculous. As a former athlete, I would refuse to play for a coach who was relying on their daddy for all their decisions. The Crane family travels with the team, too. Come on, Leslie, grow up.

Sure, there are many reasons players quit, but this seems to be happening with increased frequency. Leslie damn near lost Zane because of the verbal abuse. Jessica, Katy, and now Lyndi have left mid-season, plus all the others who chose not to come back for another season. There must be something wrong here, and it's not with the players being too soft.

Of course, it might be nice if the players actually improved during their collegiate career. But no, they are all forced into Coach Cranes (plural) system of the same thing year after year. Recruit a shooter, don't let them shoot, really makes sense don't you think.

Leslie had been looking to leave but shot herself in in the foot when mouthing off about the player Zane's teeth collided with at the conference tourney a few years back. It is time for her to leave. 5 year contract or not, it's time to go.

Congrats ChrisDell Harris

ladyneck02 — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:56:27 GMT

Congrats to Miss Harris on a great showing at the Summit League indoor championships. She set a record in the 60m! Looking forward to her outdoor season.

Softball picks up first win over SIU since 1997!

RockyBobbleHead — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:43:24 GMT

[font=Arial Black]Western Illinois junior Beth Golitko hit a walkoff homerun in the bottom of the seventh inning to give the Fighting Leatherneck softball team a 2-1 win over tournament host Southern Illinois-Carbondale Saturday in the Coach B Classic.

“I was just hoping to get on base, because I knew the team would be able to hit me in. I didn’t expect to hit a walkoff homerun,” Golitko said. “It really felt good.”

The win marked the Leathernecks first win over the SIU-C since 1997, ending a four-game losing streak over the Salukis.[/font]

Great Job, Women! Great Job, Holly!

Softball team....

meganeck — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:36:30 GMT

this weekend put on a good show, beating Iowa St, Arkansas and Minnesota. Things are definetly looking up for the Holly and the softball ladies.

Why does Volleyball get a free pass on Leatherneck Nation?

RockyBobbleHead — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:13:31 GMT

I'm so tired of the Coach Crane topic, I thought was time for a new one. I do appreciate the addition of the positive comments about softball (all very well deserved..Holly does a kick *** job, and this should be one heck of a year for her team!) but, because the topic lacks any controversy, it has been swallowed once again by the women's basketball postings.
Westerwind Sports Forum posters, here's some new rawhide to chew:
As a long time Leatherneck Nation reader, I wonder why no one has made an issue about volleyball. 88 wins in 8 seasons. By anyone's standards, that math is easy. Coach McKay "is the second winningest coach in WIU history" - but they don't really highlight that she trails a coach who garnered 112 victories in only 7 seasons. Where's the furor?
"Twittergate" gets mentioned periodically, yet no one has ever really made an issue about the fact that she (accidently) posted on her Twitter account that her team "smokes ***" - which, by the way, directly broke a team rule about posting negative comments in public forums. Her punishment? Nada - and her team was furious enough about it to tell the local newspapers and Goldfarb about it. But don't worry your pretty little heads about it. It was covered up. I'm sure there won't be any long lasting damage from "Twittergate" - I mean, she only had future recruits, players, fans, club coaches, and parents as followers. That's sarcasm, just in case you couldn't tell.
Oh, in case you missed it, at the final match of the season, a student in the stands wore a T-shirt that said, "My blood alcohol content is higher than Coach McKay's winning percentage." College humor is funny is because it's true.
Once again, Leatherneck Nation posters, where is your furor?

Lyndi Thorman ????

WIU712 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:38:15 GMT

Lyndi Thorman's name is not listed in the Box Score for Sunday's game at Purdue.

Did she not make the trip for some reason ?????

I was not able to listen to the radio broadcast of the game.

Does anyone have any information ?????

Valiant Effort at S.Utah

Fan56 — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:43:27 GMT

It was a valiant effort tonight against Southern Utah. After the 1st half I'd given up as they were down by 20, but the girls held tough anchored by a great performance by Jordan O'Brien. She tied it to force it into overtime, then tied it again to force a 2nd overtime, but then they ran out of gas despite Jordan's 25-point effort.

Crane was reasonable on the post-game interview, but oddly blamed it on the the final overtime, with only a comment or two about the first half. That's were the game was lost and there were no apparent coaching changes heard via radio. She also complained that the bench only scored 11 or 13 (I forget which) although in a earlier game, she thought that was good.

But most definitely kudos to the girls for really fighting back from what, as a fan, I considered a sure big loss going into half-time.

For the girls, I hope they can do well at UMKC.

We Won!!

Fan56 — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:28:04 GMT

Nice to see us win Saturday 52-44 at IUPUI lead by Jordon O'Brien's career high points.

Yes, it was the battle of the winless in conference, but we one the battle.

Next up is Oral Roberts, oh well, and then another winless team in Centernary.

If we can beat Centernary, and then repeat against them and IUPUI, we can make the conference tournament as the preseason 8th pick.

Anyone else coming to today's game vs. Loyola

B-Ball Fan — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:14:39 GMT

WIU hosts Loyola @ 2:00 P.M. this afternoon. I'll be attending and hope they'll be more than 134 that attended couple games ago. Go WIU !!!!

How can a D-1 program score ONLY 11 points in second half and score only 31 in a game ????

B-Ball Fan — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:07:26 GMT

I noticed Katy Clark in the crowd still supporting her former team mates. Good for her. I sure hope our staff finally recruit a point guard for next season or all that talent we have in the post will be wasted another year.

Necks knock off NIU

meganeck — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:23:20 GMT

Congrats to Coach Crane and company and these knocked off Northern Illinois tonight 50-48. Maybe they will be alright after all. Erica Lewis looks like she might be player. even more impressive considering they won without Thorman, plus it was on the road. Now Coach Mo's turn to pick up their first win tomorrow.

Firts Exhibition game for Leatherneck Women B-ball is this Sunday

B-Ball Fan — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:14:02 GMT

"All Saint's Day" (11/1/09) is when the first exhibition game for the Women will be with a 2:00 P.M. tip-off with their second exhibition game on 11/9/09 with 7:00 P.M. tip-off.

This category needs to be changed!

Neckfansince71 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:36:01 GMT

The Leatherneck women's soccer team beat Oakland today to clinch a berth in the Summit League soccer tournament. They have improved steadily and now are winning the games that eluded their grasp at the beginning of the year.

Good luck! Its great to get hot at the right time!

Oh by the way, all of the WIU teams are now called Leathernecks!!!!! Its been a bit difficult because I always looked for Westerwind and Leatherneck to decide what team was being talked about, but still, its been a healthy change.

Now its time for the board to make the change!!!!!! Get with it!

Women's BB Picked #8 in Pre-season Poll

WIU712 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:17:33 GMT

2009-10 Summit League Pre-season Poll

Rank, School, (First-place votes), Points

1. South Dakota State (25) 419
2. Oakland (1) 365
3. North Dakota State 318
4. Oral Roberts (1) 289
5. IPFW 214
6. IUPUI 212
7. UMKC 196
8. Western Illinois 160
9. Southern Utah 119
10. Centenary 48

women's basketball signs 3 new recruits...

meganeck — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:58:41 GMT

per wiu website. Ok that means they are bringing in 7 new players next year. That leads me to believe that several players are not coming back. If I counted correct they would have 8 players coming back which would mean 15 players for next year. So some have to be leaving. Does anybody have any info?

Welcome back Stephanie Lovingood

B-Ball Fan — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:10:47 GMT

Very happy to see that stephanie will be coming back to WIU as an Asst.h. If ever there was a player who can truly relate to these new players how to deal with Coach Crane and playing for her it would have to be stephanie who if memory serves me, serve a game or two suspension as disciplinary action while playing for Coach Crane. great hire Leslie ! Look forward to seeing Stephanie on the sidelines this winter if we ever get the 09-10 schedule ?????

This just caught my attension!

Neckfansince71 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:49 GMT

MACOMB, Ill.- The Fighting Leatherneck softball team released its 2009 fall schedule on Friday, Aug. 14, that includes four home games in the month of September at Mary Ellen McKee Stadium.

I saw this blurb today and had to read it a couple of times just to get use to it! I totally approve of the name change, it is just going to take some time to get use to it. I don't think I will shorten it to the Leatherwomen!!!

Just thought I would be funny tonight!

New Name

LeatherCy — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:33:11 GMT

Shouldn't this site now be called Leatherneck Women Sports or something of this regard. The Winds have blown away!

Volleyball recruit

Neckfansince71 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:00:05 GMT

I Googled the new volleyball recruit and discovered that she was signed to a LOI on April 15th! When I saw the announcement I immediately thought, "who quit, who's not coming?" But that was not the case at all!

The "Westerwinds" name change ???

WIU712 — Thu, 08 May 2008 10:18:34 GMT

Has anyone heard anything about dropping the name "Westerwind" and unifying all team names as "Leathernecks" ????

President Goldfarb was to make his decision known this spring. Perhaps he is waiting for the spring sports to finish up before announcing it.

I really have not heard many people supporting this idea to go with the one team name. Seems like it is an idea that originated with Vice President Johnson and Athletic Director Van Alstine.

Perhaps it does make sense from a marketing standpoint. We will have to wait and see what President Goldfarb decides to do.

Congrats to the Western Swim Coach.

Western Swimmer — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:56:53 GMT

Congrats on winning - Coach of the Year honors in your first season at Western. Keep up the good work.

Quick addition with some quick additions!

Neckfansince71 — Sat, 30 May 2009 08:38:12 GMT

I thought I would work through some math after the announcement that the women's program had signed a seventh player. It seems to me that the women's roster was at 12 last year. There were 4 seniors on the roster which would mean that after graduation 8 would be left. If you add 7 to that you get I think the full compliment of scholarships available which would be 15.

Earlier it seemed to me that someone was talking about players leaving! If the numbers are correct, the only players I see that will not be on the roster next year from this years team are women who are now clutching a diploma!

WIU softball on the rise!

Neckfansince71 — Sat, 09 May 2009 22:22:44 GMT

So I don't get it????? The Leatherwinds, or Westernecks softball teams battles North Dakota State to the death in the Summit League Championship and no one says a word????? Holly VanVlyman has done an outstanding job building the softball program and except for an advertisement from 712 not a word is typed in her behalf. Hey even the softball stadium looked outstanding on television but lets not send TVA any cudos because he just doesn't have things under control, or does he???? I know I sound like "Polly Anna" but it was a great atmosphere at Mckee all weekend long and in the future, WIU softball will continue to be heard from! I learned a long time ago, coaching travel softball that its almost impossible to win a championship from the losers bracket and that is still the case. I have no idea why the Leatherwinds came out flat but loosing the first game put them behind the 8 ball that they they almost cracked. The best is yet to come!!!

Is our softball team really that good?

Neckfansince71 — Sun, 03 May 2009 14:20:46 GMT

After a 4-10 start, Holly and the Westernecks have totally righted the ship and seem to be sailing towards an NCAA berth. The ladies are now 31-17 which means that they have gone 27-7 since that time. Kamren Ferguson is pitching the lights out and the entire lineup is hitting the ball. There was a nice article about the two freshmen who happen to be leading the team in hitting. After last year's experience in the NCAA Regional, something feels really right about this group. But first they have got to get by the Lady Bison who are game and the number 2 seed. Should be really interesting this coming weekend at Mckee stadium.

Great job!!!!!

On a much more positive note!

Neckfansince71 — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:05:32 GMT

The picture from senior day tells it all. Two seniors, big smiles, nice looking ladies, but neither presently getting a whole lot of playing time for this years team. There are also a couple of juniors on this team, and then a boatload of sophomores and two freshmen who are leading the team in hitting. One of the youngsters is also a pitcher Campbell) who has teamed up with Lori Pankratz as a key one two punch when Kamren Ferguson is not on the bump.

Ferguson as been awarded another year of eligibility so she is really a senior with another year left. The team is currently 21-16 and alot of the losses came early, by close scores, accompanied by key errors. Once they relaxed and started playing with confidence, a whole different team has emerged and that group has begun to play their best ball at the most opportune time.

Holly V has recruited three more players already for next year and I truly have the opinion that "we ain't seen nothing yet!" Of course softball, along with basketball and volleyball, are fully funded by WIU which I think gives you 10-12 scholarships to be divided up amongst the ladies. I am pretty sure that that is more than the baseball program gets.

Key double hitter this Tuesday against SIU-Ed. which is currently 33-7 and not playing a full OVC conference schedule as yet. They beat the Westernecks 5-3 in 8 innings early on. Not sure who Holly V will pitch. 3 more conference foes are in the immediate future. I don't think she wants to stumble along the way to the conference tournament but I also know that a couple more wins in the W column will look even sweeter as time goes on.

Just thought you all might want some positive news as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait, as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait,as we wait, and wait, and wait,and wait, for a list of men's basketball signees!

Need a Great Guard Westerwinds ?

B-Ball Fan — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:27:18 GMT

Mackensey Long from Carthage, Il. just led her Jr. College team @ Kirkwood to "Back to Back National Championships" and also became a two time first team ALL-American. She wanted to come to WIU out of high school and now WIU who needs guards desperately should hope they could lure her to WIU now. We all know how desperately guards are needed.

South Dakota State Wins !!

WIU712 — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:44:29 GMT

South Dakota State represented the Summit well in the first round of the Women's NCAA Tournament. SDSU beat TCU 90-55.

#7 South Dakota State will now play #2 Baylor in a second round game on Tuesday evening.

Winds Blow 17-Point Lead

WIU712 — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:40:03 GMT

Sad end to a disappointing season.

Westerwinds can’t overcome NDSU’s second half rally

Senior Amanda Walker led the team with 15 points in her final game as a Westerwind.

SIOUX FALLS, S.D.- The Western Illinois women’s basketball team was unable to hold on to a 17-point second half lead as it fell to North Dakota State, 46-43, in The Summit League quarterfinal round at The Sioux Falls Arena.

Senior Nicole Myers hit a lay-up with 16:07 left in the second half to put the Westerwinds (9-21) up 17 points at 31-14. Western held the Bison (16-12) scoreless until the 15:53 mark when Jerri Penley picked up a basket from a lay-up in the paint.

Ashley Samuelson connected on a three-point play with 14:42 left to cut the Westerwinds advantage to 12 points at 31-19. A three-pointer from freshman Anneloes Kodde pushed the lead back to 15 points at 36-21 with 10:52 left in the game.

North Dakota State would respond by scoring the next seven points to cut the lead to single digits for the first time since the 4:03 mark in the first half. The run was capped of by a deep three-pointer from Katie Birkel with 7:52 left to play.

Senior Amanda Walker hit a driving right-handed lay-up to push the lead back to double digits at 38-28 with 6:43 left to play. The Bison would answer with a 11-1 run to tie the game at 39-39 with 2:46 remaining on the clock.

After a scoreless minute and a half, Birkel hit another three to give North Dakota State the lead at 42-39 with 1:16 left in the game.

A pair of free throws from Walker made it a one-point game at 42-41, but the Bison hit four-of-six free throws down the stretch to clinch the 46-43 comeback victory.

A Birkel three-pointer opened the scoring in the first half before the Westerwinds scored six straight points on two jumpers from sophomore Ashley Lord and a running lay-up from sophomore Anne Borgertpoepping.

After North Dakota State scored the next six points of the game, a three-ball from Kodde tied the game at 9-9 with 12:05 left in the first half.

Western went on a 9-0 run that included three straight points from sophomore Lindsey Wutt and back-to-back three’s from junior Jordon O'Brien and Walker, giving the Westerwinds an 18-9 advantage with 6:34 left before halftime.

Western finished the half on a 6-2 run with another set of back-to-back three-pointers from O’Brien and Walker gave the Westerwinds a 24-10 lead going into the break.

Walker led the team in scoring with 15 points which included three buckets from beyond the arc. O’Brien and Kodde each added six points by hitting a pair of three’s while Lord grabbed a team-high five rebounds.

Birkel led the Bison with 16 points on 5-of-10 shooting from the floor. Samuelson recorded a double-double with 15 points and a game-high 10 rebounds. Penley had eight points and didn’t miss any shot she took going 2-of-2 from the floor and 4-of-4 from the free throw line while also pulling down nine boards.

Walker, Myers and fellow senior Rasheena Salter played in the final games of their career as the loss brought the 2008-09 season to a close.

Postgame Notes
• Borgetpoepping tied a career high in asssits with five.

• Walker attempted 16 field goals, the most she has taken this season.

• Walker extended her consecutive free throws made streak to 37 with a pair of free throws in the second half. The streak will end at 37 and be the second longest in school history.

Postgame Quotes

Head coach Leslie Crane opening statement:
“Unfortunately the thing that has happened to us most of this year, occurred again today. We were not able to put the ball in the basket. We defended them very well – holding them to 46 points – and we out‐rebounded them but making points has been tough for us.”

On the team’s defensive performance:
“We played some great pressure defense tonight. We held a division one basketball team to 14 points in the first half, which is phenomenal. It dropped off just a bit in the second half but it was still a good defensive showing. I couldn’t be anymore pleased with the effort our team made on the defensive side of the ball.”

On losing the big lead:
“We have young players; really we have just two players who played a lot last year. You could see that tonight. It is difficult not to rush things. I mean, they are young. We tried to do what we could as a coaching staff and calm them down but it was tough to do.”

“It is all about momentum. We did a really good job on Inger Hodgson, who is a great shooter. I thought we played outstanding defensively. It just seemed that our offensive execution wasn't there, especially in the second half. When (Katie) Birkel hit that big shot, everything changed for us. We went into a panic mode.”

Senior Amanda Walker on losing a big lead:
“I think we got worried when they started to come back in the second half. We pushed our shots and rushed (our play) too much. You look up at the scoreboard and you see the lead going to eight, then to six...They just kept chipping away at our lead and we kind of panicked. We could see the lead dwindling and we just couldn’t stop it.”

Sophomore Ashley Lord on NDSU’s rally:
“I think we really noticed and felt they were coming back on us when number 10 (Birkel) hit that big three. We couldn’t stop them. When we were up by 10 it seemed like we were down by 10.”

South Dakota St

meganeck — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:30:44 GMT

I just noticed that South Dakota St is ranked #22 in the ESPN/USA poll. Anyone know if they are the first Conference team to be ranked. I don't remember a women's team being ranked before.

Deja Vu in Kansas City

meganeck — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:59:56 GMT

The Western women follow the men's lead and overcome a big deficit in the second half to beat UMKC and claim their first road win of the season. Jordan O'Brien had a big with 25 points I believe and Amanda Walker had something like 10 or 11 rebounds to go with another double digit scoring game.

UMKC

meganeck — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:38:25 GMT

Congrats to Coach Crane and the Westerwinds as they picked up their first conference win and snapped their long losing streak. Hopefully they can get on a roll from here on out. Anybody go to the game and can tell us how they looked? How did Lord look?

New Players

meganeck — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:15:16 GMT

Can anyone refresh me when the 2 players sittin gout with be eligible to start playing. I believe Ashley Lord will be first. Does she have to wait until the the second sememster actually starts or just after the first semster ends.

I was at the game Saturday and Ashley seems like she will be a leader when she gets on the court.

There was another girl sitting down at the end of the bench with Ashley and the other foreign player. Does anyone know who that was?

Wow is Il. State Good or what ?

B-Ball Fan — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:18:55 GMT

DePaul's women must be awfully good if they kicked ISU's butt because ISU's women are flat out good. They completely beat down our women last night in an old fashion a** kicking. ISU now leads the series ( if want to call it that) 41 - 2 over WIU.

Players sitting out...

Leatherface — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:16:48 GMT

Just saw on the WESTERN athletic site that the two gals from the Netherlands must sit out-one up to 16 games- for playing some type of pro BB oversees. Add the lady transfer from Mo. State and her required time period, it looks like Crane & Co. might struggle.

Read on the athletic site for more particulars. Too bad.

Winds vs Missouri

WIU712 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:32:18 GMT

The Winds played well against Missouri and even had the lead in the last 4 minutes before falling 61 - 54.

The 2 freshmen (Lindy Thorman and Katie H) got some valuable experience.

Former Winds great Doshia Woods is now an asst coach for Missouri.

Westerwinds lose big to Northern Il.

B-Ball Fan — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:51:15 GMT

It was not pretty at western hall last night if you were rooting for the Westerwinds. NIU pounded, outran, out hustled, out rebounded, had better athletes, quicker than you know what, and other than that WIU showed up. The guard play for WIU this year is the absolute worst I have ever seen for Leslie's tenure. When you dribble with your head down isn't it pretty hard to see an open player ? Pathetic.

Quincy beats WIU women

Leatherface — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:11:08 GMT

Geeeez, a D2 comes in and beats the WESTERN women. Headline in Quincy paper, QU beats D1 school blah, blah,blah. Shpuld we bring up the question - does WESTERN really belong in D1?