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RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

LeatherCy — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:03:43 GMT

It's better than the AMCU - 8!!!!

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

western-101 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:49:35 GMT

Yes, expansion of the MVC seems unlikely current membership likes the double round robin in league scheduling.

I could see the MVC without Evansville. But in line first to fill that spot would be St. Louis, then Butler.

If the MVC decides to do the unpresidented and do a major expansion, where by there would be a North and a South division then there could be room for more schools at the table.

MVC is a basketball school NDSU in its current level of basketball would fair poorly in the MVC. YSU worse and WIU and SDSU worse yet.

The Summit is a good home for WIU SDSU and NDSU currently. Hey TJ if it makes you feel more prideful remember that the Gateway (now MVFC) was founded by four Summit League/MidCon Teams to the Valley's lowly two teams, yes the Summit/MidCon out numbered the Valley 2 to 1.

Another thought for those NDSU fans that can't wait for FBS football one may want to consider the WAC (although I would never want to loose NDSU as a member).

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

tjbison — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:20:33 GMT

[quote]western-101 (6/8/2008)

I have been trying to digest the MVFC football change and decide how I feel about i

The conclusion seems to be a hung jury inside my little pea brain.

I love MVC Basketball. I go to Most Bradley games and Some ISU games as Well as the MVC tournament in St. Louis. MVC is a basketball conference.

WIU sucks at Basketball.

The Gateway is (was) an awesome FCS conference and I liked the uniqueness that was the Gateway. IMO I don't see any gain to rebranding it MVFC. That being said the Missouri Valley name is well respected. Alot of people don't think that FCS football matters but for those that do follow FCS anybody and everybody knew of the "GATEWAY".

Is there going to be confusion now about the MVFC membership? How did Drake's football team finish this year in the Valley? Who is playing Wichita State in their non conference schedule for football? Is the Horizon League and the Summit league merging? Is the Horizon merging with the Valley? Who is in the Summit League?

What if the Five MVC members of the MVFC want to move to FBS (Hard to imagine InSU but bare w/ me) WSU reinstates football, Evansvillle is shown the door and Tulsa moves back to the MVC. Looks like a brand new all sports FBS conference.

I know the Gateway was run by the MVC but I liked the seperate name distinction of the Gateway. The way I look at it you have have five MVC schools to the four non MVC, of the five MVC schools three are perinial bottom dwellers MSU ISUred ISUblue. Compared to the football power schools of NDSU, SDSU, YSU, WIU. So since only two of the five MVC school have a leg to stand on with regards to football, I don't like terms being dictated to the four non MVC powers from the two MVC powers (UNI, SIU)

NDSU and SDSU are brand new so there is no Gateway history but comparing Gateway Campionships between YSU, WIU and MVC teams not named UNI shows a large disparity WIU and YSU have 7 championships between them. SIU, MSU, ISU, ISU have 6 between them.

Maybe YSU, WIU, NDSU, SDSU should have banded together to insit the name change should be Summit-Horizon League.

Back to Basketball who knows what will happen with J-MO at the helm if we become good at Basketball and continue to be good at football the door to full MVC membership may swing open.

MVC needs to carefull about how they treat the non MVC members if Youngstown state left to rejoin the OVC or move up to the MAC and NDSU, SDSU, and WIU picked up our marbles and started sponsoring football in the Summit the new MVFC would be left with two good teams SIU and UNI. That could set the stage for the Summit League football being more dominant than MVFC football.[/quote]

Those words will never be together unless something major happens (not that it would be bad) but I'm just stating this out of Opinion only. I feel the powers to be at NDSU have aspirations for FBS football, and being in a conference like the MVFC there are other teams that also have those aspirations, with the payraise to coach Bohl up to 300K (total with bonuses), and the season ticket sales approaching 10,000, 4 of the 5 home games sellouts last year, I'm nearly positive our AD is thinking about it, I may be way wrong but everything is just falling in place and pointing to a FBS move in the next 10-15 years, also could be sooner if the BCS system were to ever go away. I for one am hoping they move to FBS, but its done in a timely manner with most of the "loose ends" tied up and not to just jump into it, but extremely happy to be in the MVFC with great teams like you guys, and also in the Summit!

PS - Most Bison fans understand that an all MVC invite could never happen and some talk out their a##, but with the upgrades to our BB facilities (hopefully know by the end of the August if the new Arena is going to be built) it's always fun to think to the future, and MOST fans also appreciate and enjoy the play in the Summit afterall its gauranteed home games every year, and beats the hell out of being Independent! just my 2 cents on the subject.

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

western-101 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:35:45 GMT

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

Neckfansince71 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:36:04 GMT

And then if you scroll down on the Bradley board they are talking about the demise of the Atlantic 10. Temple's move to the MAC and the implications that will bring. WKU is mentioned constantly as interested in the MAC!!! They have Butler moving to the A10, and a whole host of things going on. They appear to be down on Evansville as a member of the MVC. Not sure why. Fun to read the open and wild lines of conjecture. Remember last year when the Dakota's were just trying to gain interest and membership in the Summit? I do see membership in the MVC somewhere in WIU's future! Never know what a decade will bring!

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

Leatherface — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:58:08 GMT

Kind of funny. Looking at the SDSU and NDSU boards, you can see several posters talking about future MVC membership. Seems like several see the Summit as a stepping stone to what they really want- MVC membership.

They better get more media market, more money, more national exposure, more population and more championships!

The MVC is all about media markets,men's basketball,national recognition,and, money.

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

WIU712 — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:49:45 GMT

Gateway Football Conference Changes Its Name!!

Release: 06/06/2008

ST. LOUIS – Presidents of the nine-member Gateway Football Conference and the 10-member Missouri Valley Conference have approved a rebranding initiative that changes the football conference name from the Gateway Football Conference to the Missouri Valley Football Conference. The change is effective immediately.

It represents the second name change for the football league, which begins its 24th season this fall. Initially, the conference competed under the Gateway Collegiate Athletic Conference (1985-91) and the Gateway Football Conference (1992-2007).

“This is going to allow the Missouri Valley Football Conference members to take advantage of year-long positive exposure received by the Missouri Valley Conference,” said Missouri Valley Football Conference commissioner Patty Viverito. “Both leagues have developed a tremendous brand name, but the timing for the name change is right. The league expands July 1 with two new members, and with this new, stronger lineup, rebranding now makes sense.”

Although the league will share the Missouri Valley name, the football-playing members will compete under a separate administrative umbrella, as the Missouri Valley Conference and the Missouri Valley Football Conference will remain separate entities.

Members of the Missouri Valley Football Conference (and initial year of membership) include Illinois State University (1985), Indiana State University (1986), Missouri State University (1985), North Dakota State University (2008), the University of Northern Iowa (1985), South Dakota State University (2008), Southern Illinois University (1985), Western Illinois University (1985), and Youngstown State University (1997).

Five Missouri Valley Football Conference members also compete in the Missouri Valley Conference (Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, and Southern Illinois). Three league schools compete in the Summit League (North Dakota State, South Dakota State, and Western Illinois), while Youngstown State competes in the Horizon League for its other sports.

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

Leatherface — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:55:26 GMT

I agree- GONECKS. I hope fans of WESTERN- or any of the other schools- don't believe this is a first step in MVC membership, because it's not. I also hope fans don't go around telling others that they are now MVC members- this isn't the case. If you have really thick skin, go on the Valley board and say this, and see what happens.

Personally, I think it gives added recognition to the "Gateway" football conference. Lets face it, the Missouri Valley name is well known nationally. I still feel it's necessary for the WESTERN administration to keep their eyes open in this new *allignment*. Wichita State is rumored to renew their football program. WIU712 hit on this in an earlier post about the newly named conference.

I'm certainly not against the name recognition the Valley brings. I see it as a positive. Administrators at WESTERN, keep your eyes and ears open!

I agree with Neckfansince 71. I believe the Summit is a good fit for WESTERN.

All this is my two cents worth.

Go WESTERN- WIN THE MISSOURI VALLEY FOOTBALL CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

Neckfansince71 — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:22:57 GMT

Okay! I agree with you! But who cares!!!!! I would imagine that selling a Valley football package will be easier than selling a Gateway package.

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

GONECKS — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:11:19 GMT

We are in name only the Valley. I would view it as them letting the "gateway" license the name. The structure is still the same but we are not officially considered members of any kind of the MVC, only members of the Missouri Valley Football Conference. Kind of strange. There are NCAA and MVC bylaws that are in issue if football ever became officially absorbed into the Valley.

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

tjbison — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:44:03 GMT

The new LOGO!

http://gatewayfootball.xosn.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=&SPID=2899

RE: No more Gateway Football Conference

Neckfansince71 — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:27:09 GMT

What the heck! Let me the first to welcome the Bison of North Dakota State to the Valley!!!!!!!!

No more Gateway Football Conference

tjbison — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:59:42 GMT

Just figured I'd post this and see what you all think

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/ind...3§ion=news